Uroboros
Prologue and Chapter 1 out!
Currently 50k words w/ code
UROBOROS . A 17+ fantasy interactive fiction novel written in Twine. Play as the deity of eternity, powerless and deemed useless among gods, for nothing lasts forever. A struggle between mortals and gods sparks a conflict that may bring an end to the age of the divine rule.
YOUR CHOICES . Through the choices you make, develop character traits and skills that will define your player's identity and influence the course of the plot. You will dramatically change the outcome of the story through your own agency.
This game will be free to play in its entirety, and no necessary in-game content will ever be monetized. Updates may continue after the completion of the game as well.
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You are the deity of All That Lasts Forever, a being born of the Chaotic Universe and moulded in divinity. One that exists among gods of lore, with the power to change seasons, conjure great storms, and raise life from dust.
Yet, you wield no power. Nothing lasts forever.
Relegated to an errand god, you assist the god of death with the afterlife, guiding lost spirits and hearing the dead's grievances.
Life was simple; the gods weaved the starry night that mortals slept beneath, raised the sun that humans rose to and drew the tides that guided vessels along. All was peaceful.
Until someone dared to defy death.
Your investigations into a strange occurrence will lead you to know far more than you ever intended to, unravelling what may be the precursor to the collapse of the reign of gods…
An outcast among gods and mortals, you are the grey area that bridges the two, and you will decide the fate of the world. Will you side with divinity, preserving power and maintaining order? Or will you support the struggle against them, ending a long era of oppressive rule?
✧CONTENT WARNING: depictions of war, violence, and death; mentions of cannibalism (not heavily depicted) . Potentially sexually suggestive themes. 🌿
✧ PLAY AS THE DEITY OF ETERNITY . 🌿 Though do not expect to be powerful or beloved, with nothing within your domain. Choose your own name, personality, "gender" and "sexuality".
✧ FOUR CHARACTERS TO DEVELOP DEEPER RELATIONSHIPS WITH . 🌿 Four characters to develop deeper relationships with.
✧ A SHIFT AWAY FROM TRADITIONAL NUMERICAL STATS . 🌿 Focused on immersive storytelling, make decisions true to your character, and develop complex relationships with characters that are not easily quantifiable. Your choices will seal your fate, rather than your skill at stat-raising.
✧ DECIDE THE FATE OF THE WORLD . 🌿 Overthrow the current order of divinity, or fight to maintain the status quo
✧ EXPLORE A WORLD OF MYSTIQUE AND WONDER, OF PAIN AND MISERY. 🌿 A sense of loss pervades
✧ NOTE . 🌿 Gods canonically do not have a gender; merely their mortal forms will take on a certain gender presentation, which will be selectable.
Humans have united under one rule, one civilization—Galaio (“one place”). A prosperous and thriving civilization where no one shall go hungry, forgotten or abused — free from the misery and pain of the war that tore the world in the past.
Galaio is beautiful, with cities of gold and flowers, and villages of forests and hearth. Vines hug marble pillars, and trees line the streets. The earth has humans in her loving embrace, and the humans love the gods in return.
Deities rule the humans closely, the space that once seemed vast between them now closed. They've grown wary of humans' ability to govern themselves—they must save them from themselves.
Although many are comfortable with the idyllic lives they lead, they've become oblivious to the corruption and dissidence that grows within them — sentiments that cry for change. 🌿
This list will only cover characters you can form a deeper relationship with, platonic or romantic. All characters are available for everyone and gender presentation selectable. They are, by no means, the only important characters in the story.
SALVATORE // Sal-va-to-reh. Deity of the sun, and the child of the goddess of the gods and goddess of mountains. They have a smile that lights up all their features, and radiates onto others like blessed sunlight. Vivid and cheerful, they possess a deep sense of duty to humanity, one they uphold steadfastly. Always earnest in their efforts, their optimism blinds others from the burdens they bear. Full portrait and character profile here!
LUCIEL // Loo-see-el . Deity of death and one of the original Twelve gods. Their kindness belies their distance, preferring to keep others at arm’s length. They seem to be absent from all matters that concern both divine and mortal beings. Yet, their mere presence brings immutable peace, and you can confidently say they are the kindest of all the gods. Full portrait and character profile here!
CIOCANA // Show-sah-na . Deity of misfortune and suffering, and child of the deity of natural disasters and goddess of the moon and stars. Their smile is charming and practiced, yet the corners of their mouth twist with mischief. Plagued by the role of their own existence, they manage to maintain their confidence, quick-witted and charismatic, yet biting and cynical. Though they're not well-liked among deities, this appears to bother them little. Full portrait and character profile here!
ALESSI // Al-ess-ee . The champion to free humanity from the reign of gods, child to human parents. Their easygoing smile is magnetic, inviting others to take a closer look like moth to fire. A natural leader, they are deeply attuned to the suffering of others and passionate about their cause. However, hidden beneath their friendliness is a righteous fury that consumes them from the inside and threatens to swallow their heart whole. Full portrait and character profile here!
ART CREDITS !
✧ COVER ART . Thanks to Lenoka for an amazing cover!
✧ BANNER . Thanks to nuavanxi for such a gorgeous banner!
✧ CHARACTER PORTRAITS . Thanks to T0M0pann for the beautiful art!!
✧ DESIGN . Thanks to my amazing partner for editing the sidebar, background images, and headers! Original stock photos by Lana Veter, who made many wonderful abstract, watercolor images!!
CODE CREDITS !
✧ TEMPLATE . Used Vahnya's extraordinary template! Link to template!!
✧ MACROS . Thanks to Chapel for multiple macros (preload, notifications, pronouns, and dialog API)! Link to their macros!! Also thanks to HiEv for their ScrollTo macro! (Link removed, since website seems to hazve malware now!)
✧ COSMETICS . THANK YOU to...
- HiEv, using their splash screen code as base for the start menu!
- HiEv and greyelf, using their jQuery code as base to develop the code for the radio buttons!
- TheMadExile, for using their code as base to make black and white fade passage transitions possible!
- WT3Schools, for teaching me the basic HTML stuff that I forgot from school and kept me sane!
- Anastasia Goodwin, for their code on twinkling stars background! Their work falls under the MIT licence, which gives the rights to use and copy code freely. Here is the link to the code!!
✧ CODEDIVING — FOR STYLING . FEEL FREE to look into the stylesheet for reference! However, it is incredibly scuffed and you must know what you're looking at to be able to use it properly. For the most part, also feel free to look into the passages to see how the code is implemented!
However, please do not heavily reference. Code can be copied as a base or even entirely, as long as it's for functional or gameplay purposes (the black and white fade, the radio buttons, making the start menu, etc).
I should honestly have no issue with 90% of things—just please do not completely rip out the stylesheet and use visually similar images in combination! If you use my code as base, as long as over 70% of it is not copied, credit is appreciated, but not necessary. Otherwise, please do credit!
✧ CODEDIVING — FOR SPOILERS . I get the curiosity. I can't police you, but surprises can be fun! If you're like me and like a little spoilers, though, do feel free to analyze the code. If you know it'll be canon rather than just a theory, however, all I ask is that you don't spoil anyone!
For a more exhaustive list of boundaries, however, take a look at my website!
Development log
- New SugarCube versionAug 01, 2024
- Chatper 1 Look BugfixMay 28, 2024
- Chapter 1 Update BugfixesJun 17, 2023
- Chapter 1 Update & Discord!Jun 16, 2023
Comments
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This is amazing!!! Powerfully written, it draws you in and won’t let go. I loved how the LGBTQIA+ characters and families are portrayed as normal, rather than something to get hung up on. It gave me hope, so thank you for that. I can't wait for more!! (I mean, I can, don't burn yourself out, but I’ll be waiting with bated breath.)
Hi Hopelight2000! Thank you so much for the kind words about the writing!!
I've been so entrenched into LGBTQIA+ media, that the overwhelmingly positive response to the "gay dads" and similar genuinely baffled me! For all the inclusivity and diversity within interactive fiction, the community is both very progressive but also flawed. I am very happy that readers adore that characters are naturally and casually queer in my story, as much as it saddens me that it's not more common!
I'd written paragraphs more, but I will stop myself here, haha! :) I have a lot of thoughts on the story's setting and its attitude towards gender and sexuality, but I'll keep those for a future date.
Thank you so much for supporting my work! I would love nothing more but to please you with another update, believe me!! Much love!
I keep telling myself, stop playing the in-development ones, they're too good. Did I listen? No, of course not, don't ever take my advice (there's a little paradox for you). This has one of the deepest stories of all the interactive fiction games I've ever played, and that is quite the achievement. Your work is absolutely brilliant, author, and I give a massive round of applause for everyone who contributed!
Hi Egel_Wegel! I am very sorry to have been a source of great distress to you -- I personally barely have the heart and stomach to support WIPs but end up getting swept into it anyway...!
I truly appreciate all your kind works, and that is such extremely high flattery that I struggle to believe you on it! Cheers!
Ha! If you doubt yourself, maybe I should post some of my work just to show you a comparison! This game is awesome, also don't worry about distressing me lol, I'm always over it in two minutes and eagerly awaiting the rest of the story :]
Haihai,
what a great start to a story, I enjoyed it a lot and am figuratively starving for more :> -insert a whole bunch of raving about all the great things people before me have already pointed out-
I have a few questions and "critiques" after that (more like minor wishes).
Questions:
1. "This game will be free to play in its entirety" - I assume this is a passion project of yours, is / will there be any way to support you?
Whether that be financially, with art or fan-art, maybe even emotionally showing support.
(I wouldn't even know how to 'donate' here on itch without the download popup, which is not on your site)
2. Is there any way to keep updated with the progress and/or release notifications/reminders?
(I tried joining the discord but the link seems to be dead, also I honestly don't know how Tumblr works nor even have an account, so if Tumblr would work for that please enlighten me :>)
3. How will the 'release' -for the lack of a better term- work?
Will it be one big one with essentially a completed game, or will it be episodic just adding a chapter every so often, or something entirely different?
Critiques (actually just wishes):
1. You have got some incredible art available outside of the game atm, is there a chace it might be added into the game itself in some way or another?
2. I think someone before stated that they were missing audio, which while not needed can add a lot if able to execute well on it. (I'd especially recommend giving the free demo of 'Our Life: Now & Forever' a play, it has really cool dynamic music where I had to scroll up and down -to go back and forth chronologically- to even really notice the layers that started and stopped when for example a character showed up)
But audio is a very hard thing to get right, so my personal opinion -not like it's worth much, just food for thought- would be that having audio is only really worth if it is good enough to support the rest of the experience, which is a-helluva-alotta work.
3. How could you not have had 'Eternity' as a preset name for the MC honestly it writes itself and doesn't even sound bad for a name. :>
All in all I want to say, I think you really got something here and it's a crime that you plan for it to be free.
As for your questions;
1. Yes, it is a passion project! A disclaimer that I do truly believe that authors should be compensated for their creative works. It is personally important to me to share my story with as many people as possible. I love reading and writing stories, and I love that everyone and anyone can access them. The downside to this, unfortunately, is that real life distracts me from this passion of mine, even when I want to do nothing but focus on it. The best way would be to find a way to support myself financially, but I'm stubborn about not receiving donations or tips despite paying 50-300% additional commercial fees on all the artwork I commission.
I've really, really thought about using a donation platform in the past, donating a majority of the profits to charities I care about, and keeping as much as I need to cover taxes + pay for a nice cup of coffee. The moment I accept money for this game, though, I really worry that it will change it for me!
2. The discord is closed for now, sorry! I want to make it available when I am more active again.
Tumblr is the best way to keep updated. You don't need an account to view posts, and you can always submit questions anonymously! I post infrequently, but that is the first place I write anything. Check in every few months to see if I say something of note there!
Itch.io is the best for actually content updates since I also write update posts here when anything of substance is added. More insignificant ones or insights to the lore or characters are on the blog.
3. I plan it to release the work on a chapter-basis! On a tangential note, I don't plan on making this a series; I want a complete work that I can keep adding updates towards, similar to the development of Stardew Valley post-release. I hate this comparison since I feel unworthy, but that is the model of development I want to strive towards. Updates until completion, and updates even afterwards!
As for your critiques:
1. You're absolutely right! At the initial release, the codex and stats page were the most rushed aspects that I added as placeholders. The story itself was the focal point. Of course I should've known how important those things were to the experience.
Next time, I will aim to implement the wonderful character art into the game, but I need to really consider how to make a pleasing character and worldbuilding codex!!! That will take me forever.
2. I just answered the previous comment in detail about music with your post in mind! There is definitely a lot to consider regarding actually doing it correctly. When I add it, I will be very careful with it.
3. BAH, so on the nose, but maybe I'll add it just for you!!
Thank you so much for your detailed comment, and I hope I answered it all with as much enthusiasm,Pibk! <3
Thank you for your answer!
Yeah I do get that, I feel like once you start accepting money -especially monthly over something like patreon- you start to put yourself under a lot of additional pressure. (Maybe after the release you can make it so it's downloadable on itch and people can donate if they want to :>)
Then I am gonna keep a lookout on Tumblr and maybe you can let us know on there if/when the discord is open again, that'd be great!
A bit of a combination of 'critique' 1&2, I saw in your reply to dollface444 you mentioned you like the differentiation from Visual Novels, which I absolutely get and makes me rethink my previous comment about the art a little.
I mainly made that 'critique', because I confused some characters -not the best at remembering names- in the beginning and a face popping up the first time you see the name could help a lot, especially when you are making choices about their identity right after!
Side note, I love it when people/characters go "BAH, ...." always makes me laugh! But yeah it is very on the nose, but when aren't gods in mythology very on the nose? ;3
And thank you for you very in-depth answer! You answered with great enthusiasm <3
I wonder if this story will get any more updates, I really hope so!
Hi Kuejena! Updates are extremely slow, and I only have myself overthinking about the plot and lore to blame for it!! Thank you so much for the comment!
Haven't started to play yet but I know I'll love it already !!
You make me nervous!! Please let me know if you ever got a chance to read it!
I did ! It's amazing, I absolutely love the writing !! I've played many times since then
this is beautiful world-building. would have loved it with music though. it was awfully quiet. I love love love having to use my imagination for most if not all the scenes. The website for your characters are most helpful too! Nice game!
Hi dollface444! Thank you so much for bringing my attention to music. I have thought an inordinate amount about commissioning a composer, but I have reservations. I want a soundtrack that is suited for the long-term without getting grating, and for it to not be too distracting for readers. That requires a lot of consideration!
I had made the decision that it was important it was to me to have a nearly pure text-based IF. I'm a minimalist! Text-based IFs are charming to me; I don't want to detract from what makes it unique from visual novels in the first place. I love pure text interactive fiction because it feels like a book that is "interactive" more than it is a game.
Still, my mind is very open to adding music -- and like I said, I've thought about the idea way more than I'd like. When I change my mind, I will have to credit you for it!!
Please excuse my rambling. I've always wanted to mention it!
I am so glad that there are people who are actually taking a look at the website; I wasn't sure if it was actually very useful, so it's super gratifying to hear you mention it!!
Thank you again for the lovely lovely comment!
this if is soo good holy. Also in love with Ciocana
Thank you so much, Bat -- and join the club, haha!!
I havent started the first chapter yet, but I can already tell im going to like this game a lot just with the amount of detail im getting in the desc 😭
Haha you can't say that without having played it yet!! Please let me know what you thought of it when you get a chance! 🫶
what an amazing prologue!! the writing is stupendous, and the story is ever interesting and intriguing !! <33
Thank you thank you thank you so much, hamgyuus!!!
what a wonderful first chapter, i replayed this now for the 3rd time, simply because i love the entire flow of the story and the world building so much! i really cant wait for more :3
l0rnia, I am so stunned!! I can hardly sift through my own writing, so it's amazing to hear you sat through it three times, that's just! Thank you so much for loving my work and for supporting me, I hope you'll continue to keep an eye out!
Geeeee Love it！！！😍your writing style is AWSOME！
Yuuxiiii thank you so so much for your enthusiasm I love it!!! I am so happy you like my writing!
My reminder to go play it lol >-<
remember to read it
Remember to read it and let me know your thoughts! :) Thank you so much for considering my work!
I adore the world you've painted for us! Very clever, and the options are very varied and encompassing! Beautiful story-telling! I love each character introduced so far- so excited for whatever direction you take!
Thank you!
Hi w6rm! Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know your thoughts — I'm so delighted that you think that the options are varied and that you loved the storytelling and characters! Those are definitely the main things I'm looking out for. Thank you again and I hope you'll continue to stay updated!
am i the only one thats stuck with a black screen in the "Welcome, young one" i cant do anything or get pass it is it my device thats the problem?
Hi ursqlf! Thanks for letting me know. I think that only happens when you choose to skip transitions, am I correct? I'll investigate it — so sorry for the inconvenience!
Do you mind if you let me know what device you're using? Sometimes my code can be a little messed up depending on the screen size and aspect ratio, so I want to test out what it looks like. Thank you so much for reporting it!
this was amazing!!! so so cool!!
I'm really really glad you think so Rae! Thank you so much!!
THIS WAS SO GOOOOOOODDDDDDD
THANK YOU APOLLO!!!! <3
Oh my god it was so good
Thank you so much for the kind words, LsYpx!! :)
I love that the default name if you type your own is morbius
It's an old joke now I'm sure, but I'm keeping it! Thank you so much, Beetlethebat!!
I absolutely love this, I'm truly impressive and blown away! Hopefully you know how wonderful this weave of story ans characters is, if not check yourself and try feel the pride you deserve!
you have inspired me to keep going with my own story (only just recently found that this was an option)
Can't wait for more but also so confused as to who I'll end up with cause right now they all seem just too amazing to not!
Thank you so much, Insomniacbandit!! I am so happy you liked it and extremely flattered. I am not sure if anyone told you before that you give out great compliments — I have to take notes because I'm usually not very good at that myself!
I'm not sure if it's a story that is just personal or private to you, but if you ever choose to publish or share it with the world, please don't forget to let me know! I'd love to see what you've written!! (And to know what you mean when you say you only just found out?)
Much love to you!!
This game has such a phenomenal style to it! The writing seems to accentuate the characters and use them to drive the plot, and it works because the characters are interesting and vivid.
Going to be keeping an eye on this game for sure.
Calicol, I've never heard anyone say my writing did that -- you had me reading back on my work and trying to understand how you saw it in there! You helped me fall in love with my own writing again, which I confess is very hard at times. Thank you so much for your words, and I hope you'll keep supporting my work ❤️
Just giving credit where it's due. Good luck with your writing, and I'll definitely be watching for your stuff!
I started playing and as a writer who doesn't see stuff like this here often (maybe because I don't look,) so my jaw DROPPED when I began reading. Already I cannot wait for what's next and I am so excited.
CrustyOldPete, you should definitely look up more Twine games on the platform! There is a tag for it if you are unaware... there are so many more remarkable writing you have yet to see, I highly encourage you go out for it! Tbr writing is as, if not much better than the one you see in my work!
I am still so honored to hear glowing praise from another writer -- thank you so much for letting me know your thoughts!
Absolute cinema
Absolute, fucking CINEMA
It is amazing, immersive, so, so well written. It gives me joy to read such style of writing, like, I mean, it's just...MAN I am going to EAT my pc. I'm gnawing at this story
Hello Fate_Weave,
Your words are so touching!! I figured it would be hard to digest for some; I'm glad you ended up liking it!
Thank you so much for taking the time to write, I can't express my gratitude enough ♥️♥️ it's a open secret that writers LOVE your energy when you write your enthusiasm about their work!!
it was really fun and immersive, i just wish there was more
killermooch, you have no idea how much I feel the same way about my own writing -- wishing I wrote more! Thanks again for playing and for your kind words!
Seems interesting, though I had some trouble parsing the narration near the end. Would've been funny to have the ability to call Ciocana out for being a god when the MC realized it, but I realize there's a number of traits to account for and this is a minor thing. I've been curious how an outside perspective would see our MC, given all the other gods seem to have pieces of their divinity that shine through no matter what.
Hi undeadDreamer, sorry for the confusion towards the end; it's not supposed to be understood very well as it is hinting at something we aren't supposed to know yet, if youre referring to what I think you are!
I believe feedback on how you wish your MC can respond is extremely helpful, and I'm happy to include that option in the game!
I have also received a question about how other people view MC... I might change the character profile to be in the style of viewing yourself the way you might view other characters, and the description varies on a combination of characteristics. This sounds pretty ambitious but exciting, but I am keen on incorporating it!
Thank you so much for your detailed thoughts and the time you spent reading, I really really appreciate it!
ahhhh! the new art looks so beautiful!!!!
Thank you Lady kai!! I love the art as well!
New art as far as I know.
Hello Spiritual-Chemistry! It's just new art for now. The art is actually quite old, commissioned back when I was actively working on the IF. I previously wanted to hold onto it until Chapter 2 came out. However, since I went on hiatus and returned, I've decided to release it.
Thanks for all your patience!
so glad to hear this game is still alive!!
Wow! The character art is so serene!
Thank you, Clover!!
the new art looks beautiful wow!!! the original design will always have a place in my heart for being so charming, meanwhile this new era of visuals is ✨ wow
The original art is so charming, but I wanted to have unique art for even different gender presentations of the ROs, hence new art! They looked quite same-y, as I was scraping some money just to be able to get new commissions at all.
I'm glad you liked then new design, hwhy2!! Thanks for your kind comment!
Absolutely beautiful. Eagerly waiting for more <3
Thank you so much, (redacted)! (Didn't want to refer to you ever)
absolutely love this! cannot wait for more!
editing because i cannot spell at 2am for the life of me!! 💔
Ahh, thank you Yorbb! I don't want to disappoint you!
You wouldnt disappoint me ^^ . . .unless you would ever rush updates, then id be mad (in a respectful "Grr your health matters more !!ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ" Way)
And the newer RO art is BEAUTIFUL ( holy skibidi Salvatore and Ciocana are hot as hell respectfully)
it is soooo stunning, what a mystic feeling
I'm so glad it conveyed those vibes! Thank you so much, MyKawaiiPanda!
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SO MUCH
THANK YOU LADY KAI!
awesome game though i expected more to play its been a while i dont see a new update...i will wait more for it when the time comes i will be back
Sorry for the delay, Abyssal!
its np really just anxious your game is very good
Is this IF abandoned? If so, how disappointing...
Was last updated august 2024: New SugarCube version
It has been only four months at this point in time. People do have lives, and things can happen to where they can't write as much. Patience is a virtue.
It's not abandoned, but it was on hiatus for a long time. Sorry!
Oh no it's ok. I wasn't following your tumblr at the time so I didn't know then. Take your time and keep going!
Awesome game hot bar to say but I hope the MC can become like a supreme evil and destroy she who rules all the way the MC is treated is just awful he was to be the most important, powerful and overpower being instead he is a god of thing and no powers to other gods he is just a assistant I hope he becomes overpower and make them all pay
Hi OminGod, I am happy to incite these feelings in you! I hope you'll express them through your main character as I do want to incorporate that vengeance into their characterization. Thank you so much for reading and sharing your thoughts!
Opinions about pronouns and such aside, I personally found the story quite interesting! I liked the fact that I could somewhat shape my character's personality based on what I chose. The artistic section is beautiful. Maybe I would just remove the times when the screen went white (I played this at night). Otherwise I really liked it and I look forward to the next chapters!
Hello erimm, sorry for the late reply and thanks for playing!! In the future, I'll actually add some kind of option to get rid of them, but for now, I hope you'll excuse it! Thank you so much!
It's pretty cool but damn you for putting those white screens in, they hurt
think fast juggernaut
Super late reply, but I meant for it to flashbang 3 AM readers! Only half-joking :) thanks for playing, Autumnal-Cinders!
Lost me with the nonsense pronouns before the game even started. Not even fucking words but sounds like eh/ehq like wtf am I even picking?
the pronounce that you want, who is forcing you to pick something u don't want?
you pick pronouns for people you know nothing about moron.
Let me get this straight, you are mad at letters, to give flavour, that you can choose, at the very start of the game, in a IF.
Ladies and gentleman and eh/ehq, I think we have found a comment of all time
you seem to be the one that's mad. So clearly you didn't get it right. I said the made up
word pronouns were off putting. Not seeing why you're so bothered by my disinterest
So... lemme understand. Having more options, more ways to express your character, is bad because... you personally don't understand some of the options? Cool, pick smth else then? Leave the other stuff for people who do understand and want to use it?
This is the easiest problem in the world to fix my guy, how fragile is your ego that you can't handle even just seeing some funky pronouns and quit so hard you left a salty comment about it.
a lot of people use pronouns as an extension of their identity, while some people care about it less; from my perspective, its mostly just about being able to present yourself in a way that makes you happy and comfortable :)
You could argue that this is misguided though, since pronouns are really one of the least personal and most vague things you could use to describe someone. It seems odd for some people to use that of all things to try to express their whole identity. Unless I'm misunderstanding something ofc.
You're not! The way you're seeing it is perfectly fine, some people care about it more than others and neither are really wrong- for example, i use it/its pronouns because that's just what makes me feel happiest but i don't mind if people call me by something else while done people would care a lot more. My pronouns are more like an aspect of me vs a representation of my whole identity
(I apologize for the wall of text ;-;)
Pronouns are an essential function of just about any language. A pronoun is basically just a noun referring to a person (bit more complicated but yeah thats the gist). He, she, they, we, it, etc are all pronouns. There may be languages out there with limited pronouns, or who express things in a different way, but most languages I am aware of has them in some form. They are not always gendered however.
In english, several pronouns imply gender. For example "she" implies a female gender to the person being referred to. This creates a problem, as transgender and gender nonconforming individuals are uncomfortable when they aren't seen as the gender they identify as. Thus the concept of changing one's pronouns, and introducing oneself with their pronouns. This is merely a tool by which to ensure that the language we use to identify each other does not accidentally hurt anyone. Its basically the same level of respect as not calling someone a nasty nickname.
This works great, for some people. He/she/they are all very useful pronouns and can be applied to a wide variety of identities and genders, but some people don't really feel like their identity fits within any of those boxes, and they want a new box. Or heck, want to be outside any box. Thus we come to the concept of neo-pronouns. Essentially newly invented pronouns used to describe people who don't feel represented by the "standard set". A lot of people who don't fit in the binary of he/she use "they" instead but that doesn't feel right for everyone. Some people feel more comfortable with a unique singular pronoun instead.
And, finally (apologies for the rather long wall of text, I just wanted to be thorough), we come to eh/ehq. Eh/ehq are examples of neo-pronouns. They're not ones I am familiar with personally, but in essence they express something outside the gender binary. Choosing these pronouns can express character in a lot of ways, especially for an immortal born-from-the-fabric-of-the-universe god like the MC is in Uroboros. It can express an alienation from conventional gender norms, a desire to distance oneself from those norms, a simple sentiment of not caring all that much about gender and preferring to be unique in one's expression, or all of the above, or none of the above.
Eh/ehq, in essence, expresses that the person using them is not male or female, does not wish to present as such, and does not wish to be perceived as such. The reasons for this can be numerous but that is the essence of it.
And bringing back around to the topic of languages. There are languages out there that don't have gendered pronouns, or have less of an emphasis on gendered pronouns. It sounds like you likely speak one of these languages. I imagine it might sound rather silly for english speakers to get all worked up about them lol, but it is just a matter of expressing one's identity. Its also worth noting that not all pronouns refer to people. "This, That, and Those" are all pronouns as well. Again, most languages have pronouns, but only some languages have gendered pronouns and as such using the proper gendered pronouns may be more/less important depending on your language.
You're talking about ego when you're the triggered one. Why am I picking pronouns for characters with nothing but their name to go off? On top of that I don't know what half the words mean. On top of that if they're gods they could all be neutral. I know gender politics are your whole personality but find someone who cares to argue that bullshit
LMAO keep telling yourself that buddy
You're the one malding in the comments of an itch.io game because you saw some funny words. And now you're complaining about picking pronouns for the ROs before meeting them? Its very common in IF games to pick the gender (and thus pronouns) of the romance options ahead of time so all the ROs fit your tastes. Literally just complaining about one of the genre conventions now.
If you dont care about gender politics, why are you still here LOL? You're the one who came back to argue.
I'm not reading all that. I don't have to justify anything to some random who's mad I don't like some game that makes them feel seen.
Regardless of the actual topic here, disregarding an opinion against something simply due to the fact that it's common does not make sense. It's just an appeal to popularity, a logical fallacy. Obviously, there is also a lot of Ad Hominem (another logical fallacy) on both sides here, making this whole argument look silly.
I agree, both sides were illogical and having opinion is your right, if you don't like it, you don't have to, it's your choice, I can respect it.
But I will add this, if you have a issue with a game, this is not how you go about it, tell the creator how they should design the game is like telling a chef how to cook, it's just disrespectful and there is a difference in blatant disregarding their work and providing criticism, it's about respecting them
Even though the other comment do give some ideas and changes ,they are giving criticism and aim to help in further updates, the op just wanted to yell about their issues and not how to fix them
Dude no one is forcing you to do anything if you don't want to pick it then don't your acting as if you can't choose he/him, she/her, or they/them stop whining about more options on games where you can make yourself whatever you want to be.
Why are you so triggered by my disInterest? How does this affect you?
Why are you complaining about something that you don't have to choose? And how does being a baby about it help you?
womp womp anyway i used some fun neopronouns like sol/sols deca/decays nym/nyr how fun!
(no ones forcing you to use pronouns you dont want, inclusivity is good actually)
You s should take your own usernames advice
What you said was unnecessary.
Ok
follow your own username's advice and do the entire world a favor actually 🫶
This was so fun and interesting! Any news on chapt 2? :3
I come back to this every now and then and love it still as much as the first time I read it. I look forward to seeing where the story goes!